A Little Preparing and Moving

Sunday, May 31 – Saturday, June 20

We have absolutely no idea where the month of June has gone! So many developments on Our Little Lot have taken our time and our energy that by the end of the day we have fallen into bed too exhausted to even consider writing.

However, we did get the electrical conduit and water pipes put together, the conduit wired, and everything covered (thanks again to our neighbor, Gary Fox and his backhoe) on the 31st of May under the expert supervision of our new friend Bob Royar. Jim and I have learned so many new skills since we started this role of being East Texas landowners.
Just a brief explanation of the lovely yellow arm and ankle bracelets that I am sporting in the above photo…the mosquitoes and chiggers have taken a fancy to me. I found that by wearing these lovely items I can work more comfortably outside as they repel the insects! You may purchase your own set at any Wally World!
On Monday, June 1, we decided that we owed ourselves some down time and took off for a two day cycle trip around East Texas…mainly the Marshall, TX, area. It was absolute heaven to ride and enjoy the sights of nature with no briars to pull or dirt to rake!
Happy Birthday on June 2nd to Zeke in Knox City.

Excitement reigned when we arrived back at the RV Park in Holiday Villages as we received a call from Heather saying that she and her family were coming over on the 5th for a day’s visit! That news gave us the boost of energy we needed to return to the clearing of land and sprucing up the lot as we impatiently wait the three weeks before we can put Big V up on her new home.

Since we have been living in the RV Park, we also spend some of our time there mowing (they would mow, but not as often as we think it should be done). Also, we needed to give Big V a thorough cleaning and do some cooking.

Jim: Heather, Andy, Alexander, and Abby arrived shortly before noon on Friday, just in time to get the grand tour of the RV park and our lot.

Following a walkaround of the lot, we walked down to the clubhouse for lunch and then we all changed clothes and hit the swimming pool. It was the first time we’d been in the pool since we got here, and it didn’t take long before we were wondering why we had been spending the hot afternoons pulling weeds and briars instead of soaking in the cool pool. Oh well, live and learn!

When we were finished at the pool, we returned to Big V to dig out the fishing poles and walk down to the pier to try our luck. Of course, it was still the hottest part of the day and not a time for fishing, but the little ones didn’t know that and thoroughly enjoyed learning to cast their lines out into the lake.
Abby got tired of the fun before the others did, so we walked her back up the road to Big V and I got busy getting everything ready for a big family dinner. We had invited Mother, Ernie, and Billee (T.J. had a previous engagement with some of her friends) to join us for barbecue and all the trimmings and I needed to get the grills fired up.
It wasn’t long before the coals were glowing and the meat (country style ribs, pork chops, and chicken drumsticks) were sizzling on the grill. We sure do know how to make the neighborhood “stink purty!”


The family showed up just as the food was finishing on the grill and we all sat down outside to enjoy the fast and the multiple conversations that come with a large family gathering.
Saturday found us hard at work at the lot again, just attacking the piddly chores that we can do until we get the sewer and water connections tapped in.

Sunday morning we went to church with Mother and T.J. Ernie and Billee went to Dallas to visit their daughters, so we volunteered our services as chauffeurs.

Monday – Saturday, June 8 – 13

Happy Anniversary on June 8th to son John and daughter-in-law Carol in San Antonio, TX and to James and Susie in Hobbs, NM on June 12!
Unable to do anything (except pull weeds and vines) at the lot, we turned our attention this week to taking care of some chores around T.J.’s house. She had several things that needed to be done and offered to pay us to help. At first, we declined to talk about pay, but she insisted that since she would have to pay someone else to do those things, she might as well pay us.

Without going into much detail, we found that there really was quite a bit to be done. During the course of the week we fixed a set of wooden gates to the backyard area…had to remove all the hardware, do some minor trimming on the wood and some digging and cleaning out of the threshold, and then reinstall the gates.

The most time-consuming chore was to paint two bedrooms that haven’t been painted in the fourteen years that T.J. has been in the house. All of the elements for painting were involved…furniture moving, picture removal, wall preparation, etc. Once the walls were ready and we had paths around the rooms, we developed a system for doing the painting – I did the trimming around the ceilings and floors while Barbara started rolling out the walls. When the trim work was completed, I grabbed a roller and started helping to put on either first or second coats.

It took four days to complete all the painting and furniture moving, but along the way we also hung photographs and paintings in other rooms and did some other minor chores (including cleaning up our mess).

Saturday morning found us hard at work at the lot again. We decided that the slab had set up long enough and that we were tired of living temporarily in the RV park. So, our game plan for the day was to dress up the areas around the slab, burn off the giant pile of weeds and grasses that we had accumulated, and generally get ready to make the lot our new home. It was a long, hot, and dirty day, but we had a great sense of accomplishment when it was over.

Sunday, June 14

We awoke early this morning and reconfirmed our decision that this would be moving day for the Littles. We had intended to move after church and working at TJ’s, but with storm clouds looming, we decided that we’d better tackle the move before any rain hampered us. After multiple trips in the car to carry our outdoor furniture, grills, and other miscellaneous items that we didn’t want to repack in Big V. By 10:00 a.m everything but the car, the motorcycle and trailer, and Big V were in place on the lot.

After riding the cycle up and parking it and the trailer on the back corner of the slab, Barbara took me back down to the RV park where we fired up Big V and slowly made our way through the twisty roads to 394 Geronimo, our new residence.
Just as I started backing Big V up the long driveway, Bob and Mary Royar came by and assisted Barbara in giving directions. The sun was hitting just wrong to be able to use the backup camera, so the others gave me verbal directions until Big V was settled firmly in place on the concrete.

Before long, we had attracted all the neighbors and everyone admitted that Big V certainly looked like she belonged in her new surroundings!

Time had flown by and since we were responsible for the lunch, we loaded the food in the car and headed to TJ’s where she, Joseph, and Mother were awaiting their meal.

Once everyone’s appetite was appeased, Barbara and I began hanging blinds in one of the newly painted bedrooms. Finally around 4 it was time to head out to our new home at 394 Geronimo St! (We have a 911 address, but will not have mail delivery there)

Monday, June 15

We were up before daylight and Barbara decided that this would be an excellent time to hit the laundry while I piddled around on our estate. We both took time though to sit out on the patio and admire our new home.

Our chores this day included not only the laundry, but mowing, filling in holes, and the clearing of another part of the land that leads down to the creek.

Tuesday, June 16

This morning found our new neighbors, Linda and Wes, from Texarkansas putting in their drive and clearing the land to the south of us. Since they were using Gert, the same guy who put in our drive, we asked him about putting gravel on the rest of our drive. We were delighted with the quote he gave us and made plans for that to be done before we once again returned to TJ’s to finish up our projects there.

After completing another set of blinds and hanging a new chandelier in the dining room, Barbara and I found ourselves once again among the unemployed and headed back to our little lot.

Imagine our surprise when we returned home to find a pile of gravel in the driveway waiting to be spread out. And, by evening’s end, Josh, who works for Gert, had done just that! What a beautiful sight!

Wednesday, June 17
Happy Birthday to Amanda in Knox City!

Today was to be another red letter day for us and for Mother. Josh and John, the village representatives for Monarch Utilities, arrived to tap in our sewer system and complete all of our utility hookups. We were hoping they would be finished before I had to go to Mineola to take Mother to Tyler, but that didn’t happen, so Barbara stayed behind to watch what turned out to be a very educational procedure. While I hopped on the cycle and motored off to town.

While Barbara stayed at the lot, Ernie and I took Mother to Tyler to have an injection in her back to alleviate the pain she has been suffering there for several years. The procedure, done at East Texas Medical Center, didn’t take long, but there was a lot of waiting time before and after, so Ernie and I had an opportunity to just sit and visit for several hours.

Around 3:00, we got a call in the waiting room letting us know that they were preparing to wheel Mother down to the front doors, so I went out to get the car while Ernie stayed to help get Mother outside.

By 3:30 or so we were back on the road to Mineola to get Mother back into her own room to rest up from the day’s experiences. The doctor said she should rest and take it easy tonight, but that by tomorrow she could do anything she wanted.

Thursday, June 18
After a slow start around Big V this morning, it was back to Tyler today for Barbara and me to do some serious shopping. There were several items we needed that just weren’t available in our area, so we pretty much made a day of the trip, with stops at Southern RV, a motorcycle shop to get a new cover for the Voyager, Dollar General, Cato’s, and, of course, Walmart.

On the way back to Holiday Village we stopped by Mother’s house to check on her (she was feeling just great…no back pain for the first time in years). We returned to Big V where we unloaded the Vibe and settled in for the evening, just trying to stay cool on one of the hottest days of the year so far.

Friday, June 19

Today was just another workday around the place, but did involve an afternoon trip up to Quitman to get a new license tag for one of the trailers and then to Sulphur Springs to return several pieces of PVC to Lowe’s and purchase some more sections and couplers to finish an electrical project. While we were there, we found some material to help insulate the front windows from the burning afternoon sun…maybe we can finally get some relief from the summer heat!

Saturday, June 20
Happy Birthday to cousin Ladd in Mineola.

Since we were planning to leave for a week and a half to go to Artesia tomorrow, we decided we’d better get caught up on some serious housecleaning chores around Big V. While Barbara went off to start several loads of laundry, I started the indoor cleaning – vacuuming, dusting, sweeping, mopping, etc. It was a chore that we had put off for way too long, and took up a huge chunk of the day.

When Big V was clean and shiny (inside, at least), we turned our attention to cleaning up the Vibe for travel. Since we had been using it almost like a pickup truck to haul everything from groceries to rocks, it was a real mess, but we soon got it under control and had all but the last minute things packed away.

Tonight we just rested and reflected on how busy we had been for the past three weeks; it was almost as if we’d lost all concept of time, with the days running together as we got the lot, Big V, and the vehicles ready. Finally, we are beginning to feel “at home” here at Holiday Village.
"The miracle is not that we do this work, but that we are happy to do it." Mother Teresa
From the shores of Lake Fork,
Jim & Barbara

Getting a Little Lot of Land Ready

Sunday, May 17 – Saturday, May 30, 2009

Sunday, May 17

Happy Birthday to niece Keylin Roberts in Cleburne, Texas!!!

It was great to get back to the Sunday morning worship service at the Rim Rock Cowboy Church this morning. We always enjoy the service and the fellowship there. Ladd and Angela were back in church after being gone last week, so we sat with them and got caught up on what was happening with each other (after the service, of course).

We came back to Big V for lunch and an afternoon nap and then drove to Mineola to visit the family. When we got there, we found that Mother had gone with T.J. to pick up Alathea, one of Rob’s daughters and one of T.J.’s granddaughters. Alathea was going to spend a week or so with her grandmother while Rob was recovering from his motorcycle accident.

In addition to Mother being gone from the house, Ernie was over at T.J.’s taking care of the dogs and Billee was on the phone with one of their daughters, so we quickly told her we’d be back another time and let ourselves out of the house.

After a quick shopping trip at Wal-Mart, we hurried back to Holiday Village to put away our purchases and settle in for a quiet evening.

Monday – Saturday, May 18 – 23

Except for the odd trip to Mineola and time off due to occasional thunderstorms, this was a week of 10-hour work days on the lot.

We pulled vines and branches until our arms felt like they were going to fall off (or be cut off by the briar thorns) and built a couple of mountains for the burn piles. We discovered more old branches to be burned and I took the chain saw to some dead branches on one of the large cedar trees in the creek bed.

While cutting through the dense foliage that grows in our little ravine, Barbara discovered several large and very productive blackberry bushes. We don’t know how long the berries will last, what with all the birds that fly around our place, but we’re hoping for a good harvest off our own land.

We also received three more loads of fill dirt to build up the slab area…much of what had been delivered before was washed away by the heavy rains while we were on our trip to Tennessee and Georgia. And, we found that we had all miscalculated the slope of the land from the rear to the front of the projected pad…nearly a three-foot difference on one corner.

Glenn’s father-in-law, Larry, came out to visit with us about what we wanted to do, and in the course of the conversation, we decided that we needed to extend the front ramp by five feet and cut down the level surface (the parking area for Big V) to 20’ X 35’. Those changes, along with the inclusion of footers all around the edge of the slab, should give us a solid and stable parking and living area for many years to come.

One of the highlights of the week was when the family came out for a hotdog cookout on Tuesday. Ernie, Billee, Mother, T.J., and Alathea joined us for the evening. One of the first things Alathea saw when she entered Big V was my trumpet. It became evident to all of us that there would be a trumpet lesson before the evening was over. Alathea took to the instrument like a natural…had little, if any, trouble puckering her lips and getting them to buzz so she could make the horn sound.
The end of the week found us battered, bruised, and pretty well shredded by thorns, but the dream was coming alive…now if we could just shut off the rain for a while (who would ever think that we, from southwest Kansas, West Texas, and southeastern New Mexico would ever say anything like that!)..

Larry’s able-bodied assistant, Juan, began preparing the slab area on Friday after all the strings were in place to mark the edges and set the height for the dirt. Juan promised to return on Sunday (God and weather willing) to finish spreading the dirt and packing it in place so the concrete people can do their thing…life is good and getting better by the day!

Also, while we were in town on Friday, Alathea decided that she’d like to stay the night with us. We weren’t sure how she would take to staying with virtual strangers, but she was an absolute delight to have as a house guest.
Saturday the Mineola clan came back out to check out the progress of the land and to have another Little meal with some homemade ice cream that Alathea and Barbara whipped up.

Sunday, May 24

After last night’s downpour, and anticipating more rain today, we decided we’d better get over to the new lot, assess the damages, and began any repairs we might be able to make. So, by 7:30 we were hard at work trying to fill in all the low places around the pad area and building little dams to divert water away from our dirt. While there wasn’t any serious damage to Juan’s work within the area of the forms, it was obvious that when he is able to come out and work again, he will have some smoothing out to do.

We worked until after 10:30 moving mud and dirt around and then decided we’d done all we could for the day. If it was going to rain, it was going to rain and there was nothing else we could do about it except pray that our efforts would help prevent any further problems. It was obvious that Juan would not be able to start digging the footers in such a soggy mess, so we locked the tools in the shed and went back to Big B to clean up.

Because we needed to get to the nearest Wells Fargo Bank (in Terrell, about 65 miles east of here), we got dressed and started out in the Vibe, looking along the way for a Sonic so we could have breakfast (didn’t take time this morning…too much to do on the lot).

We finally found a place to eat at Wills Point, so we stopped long enough to order some breakfast burritos and then headed out again, reaching Terrell in about 20 minutes. We took care of our banking (thank goodness for 24-hour ATM service) and then went to Home Depot to see what we couldn’t live without.

From Home Depot we drove to Wal-Mart to get some things we would need for tomorrow’s family dinner in Mineola and then drove as fast as the law allowed to get back to the park and get things in the refrigerator.

The evening was spent in preparing our contributions for the Memorial Day dinner at T.J.’s house. T.J. had requested our Puerto Rican potato salad and Barbara whipped up a new dessert she had learned while we were at Toccoa-Heidi’s Peanut Butter Pie, made with peanut butter, chocolate pudding, Cool Whip, and topped with halves of Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups.

The work, driving, and cooking took its toll on us and we were in bed and asleep before 10:00 pm…weary with well-doing.

Monday, May 25

Lest we forget…this is Memorial Day, a day of remembrance of all veterans who paid the ultimate sacrifice so that we can enjoy the freedoms in this wonderful nation.

Happy Anniversary to Cousins Ladd and Angela Thompson in Mineola, Texas!!!

There was still plenty of dirt to move around and briars to fight, so as soon as we woke up (which was earlier than we wanted), we went over to the lot and started to work. The morning was spent in clearing out vines, weeds, briars, and broken branches from the little ravine that runs west from our lot to the creek just before it passes under the road. We don’t know that we ever intended to do all this, but as with many projects, there just isn’t a stopping point.

Meanwhile, Juan showed up, giving up his holiday morning to work on the pad area and repair the small amount of damage that had been caused by yesterday’s rain. Juan is perhaps one of the most conscientious workers we’ve ever met. Everything has to be done as close to perfection as possible, and in the end, his work is almost art.

By working the way he does, Juan has put two children through school…his son is an engineer in Canada, his daughter is a lawyer in France, and Juan is taking classes (in between jobs) to earn an engineering degree…true American success stories.

Sometime after noon we finally called it quits at the lot and returned to Big V to get cleaned up for the “big do” at T.J.’s house.

Later in the afternoon we drove in to Mineola where we joined T.J., her son, Rob, his wife, Michelle, and their children, Joseph, Alathea, and Arriana. Cousin Madeline was also there, but her parents, Ladd and Angela, passed on this occasion since it was their anniversary and they had other plans for the evening.

We were soon joined by Mother, Ernie, and Billee, and soon the house was full of conversation and the smells of a wonderful family dinner – brisket with all the conceivable trimmings.

When we had eaten all we could hold and said all there was to say, we got the place somewhat back in order and started saying our goodbyes…Rob and his family had a long drive ahead of them and we needed to get to the store for a few things before heading back to the lake, checking out the new lot one last time for the day, and then going back to Big V to collapse.

Tuesday, May 26

The big day finally arrived!

We got out early and headed to the lot at 7:00, just in time to see a large cement truck backing into the lot. Juan and Larry were already in place, and soon the first of two loads of concrete were pouring into the forms…what a beautiful sight for us!
As Juan and Larry were moving the heavy wet concrete into place, we heard thunder rumbling in the distance and the sky started clouding up…not at all what the weatherman promised for the day. It appeared that the approaching storm was going to break to the north of us, but just to be on the safe side, Larry asked us if we would mind going to town to get a roll of plastic sheeting to cover the newly-poured concrete.

After a few phone calls, Larry located what he needed in Winnsboro, about 23 miles away. We hopped in the Vibe and took off, hoping against hope that 1) this trip would be unnecessary and we would be able to return the plastic for a refund, and 2) if this trip was necessary, we would make it back to the lot in time for the plastic to do any good.

As soon as we got into Winnsboro, I dropped Barbara off at Sonic to order us some breakfast while I went to the lumber yard and got the plastic sheeting…a roll 50 feet by 100 feet, and plenty heavy…we may have to think about getting some heavier shocks for the Vibe…or, get that Jeep I’ve been dreaming about.

We rushed back to the lot and arrived just as the cement truck was pouring out the second load of concrete. So far, so good…the clouds were breaking away from us and it looked as if everything was going to be on schedule. But, just as Juan and Larry finished spreading the concrete and getting it set just right in the forms, the sky darkened, the thunder rumbled, and it started raining. We quickly unrolled the plastic sheeting and got it spread over the slab just in time for a real downpour.

For the next hour or so there was nothing to do but take a break, so we returned to Big V to ride out the storm and hope and pray that it would end soon so they could finish the work.

When the rain stopped and the sky started clearing, we returned to the lot to find Larry and Juan peeling the plastic sheeting off the slab and moving the finisher into place. They spent the rest of the day doing all the finish work while we alternately watched their artistry and worked at gathering weeds, vines, etc. for the burn pile.

By 5:00, the work was done, and we were the proud owners of a 20’ X 45’ foot slab of concrete…maybe not much to look at for some folks, but it was a thing of beauty for us…the foundation for what will one day be our East Texas home site.

Wednesday, May 27

It was with more than a little excitement that we returned to the lot this morning to begin moving dirt around to shore up the slab and begin the landscaping for the lot. But, the excitement soon wore off as we discovered the enormity of the job of moving dirt a shovelful at a time and raking it into place; especially on the north side of the slab, which has a tremendous amount of slope.

Bob Royar had recommended a friend of his as a good source to bring in some dirt to help shape the sides of the slab and some caliche and gravel to build up the driveway, so we gave Gert a call and asked him if he would mind coming out to give us estimates on what it would take to get the job done.

Unfortunately, Gert was tied up on another job today, but he promised to come out tomorrow morning to look at the place and let us know what he could do.

Since the ground was still wet from yesterday’s storms and we couldn’t get to the vines that needed to be cut out or even get the burn pile started, we decided we’d just go to Mineola to visit, pick up the mail, and do some shopping.

By the time we were finished in town, we looked like the backside of hard times as we drove away with both a wheelbarrow AND a 55-gallon steel drum (we decided that we needed a burn barrel on the place) packed into the back of the Vibe…it’s amazing how much will fit in that little car!

On the way back to the lake we stopped at Peralta’s, a Mexican restaurant in Quitman that we had heard good things about, and enjoyed a wonderful meal…definitely a place to keep in mind for great food and outstanding service and a very moderate price.

Back at the lot we unloaded our new purchases, tried once again to burn off some of the trash in the burn pile (still too wet), and tried out the wheelbarrow by moving a few loads of dirt around. Then, it was time to just take it easy for the evening since we had what we hoped would be a hard, but productive day ahead of us tomorrow.

Thursday, May 28

As promised, Gert and one of his helpers, Josh, showed up at the lot this morning to give us some advice and estimates on what it would take to do the necessary dirt work to dress up the slap and shore up the driveway.
After visiting for about a half hour, we agreed to let them get to work on it. Gert said they could begin this morning and that he would have Josh come over with a tractor to move the dirt around the way we wanted it. Since we’d already tried to do the job with a small wheelbarrow, shovel, and rake, we voted that it would be well worth the price to let them take care of the job.

We continued pulling vines and gathering debris for the burn pile and soon we had a dump truck load of topsoil pulling into the lot.

We watched in amazement as Josh demonstrated his artistry in moving large scoops of dirt into place and then gently smoothing them out. It didn’t take very many minutes to figure out that what we were paying him to do the work beat the hound out of what it would cost us in blood, sweat, and tears (not to mention time) that it would take us to do the same job.

We finally got the burn pile burning down in the gully and just stayed out of the way as we received a truckload of caliche and a load of rock and then watched as Josh moved everything into place and smoothed it out. By the middle of the afternoon, the place was really looking good (at least in our eyes), and we were feeling much better about our decision to make this move. Now, if we only had water, electricity, and a sewer hookup.

Friday, May 29

While Barbara stayed at the RV park to do laundry and take care of some chores around Big V, I rode the motorcycle to Mineola and then drove with T.J. and Alathea to take Mother to a doctor appointment in Tyler.

As usual, we had a lengthy wait before seeing the doctor, but we did get some good news from him. What we thought was a serious back problem can be alleviated by injections rather than surgery.

In the course of the examination, the doctor found that a tendon has become detached from one of Mother’s fingers. She thought that the finger was popping out of place, but the doctor showed us exactly what was happening and suggested a surgical procedure to take care of the problem…yet another doctor to face, but at least there is a solution to a pesky problem.

When we were finally finished in Tyler, we headed back toward Mineola. Mother had a rehab session scheduled for 1:30, so she decided to go on home and rest a bit before going there.

I got the cycle at Mother’s house and then followed T.J. to Quitman, where Barbara joined us for lunch at the Texas Tea Room, a nice little restaurant/Texas gift shop that we’d heard a lot about, but hadn’t visited yet.

We spent the rest of the afternoon just piddling around Big V and the lot, not doing anything of great importance.

Saturday, May 30

This was another big day in my continuing education. Bob came by around d 8:00 and picked me up so we could ride up to Lowe’s in Sulphur Springs to buy the supplies necessary to run the water and electric lines to the new slab. Bob is a retired electrician and all-around handyman, so he was the perfect person to guide me through this experience.

By noon we had returned to the lake with a trailer full of PVC pipe, one size for electrical conduit and another for the water line, as well as assorted fittings and other hardware to accomplish the jobs.

Since we were going to park the trailer at Bob and Mary’s place for safekeeping until tomorrow, I called Barbara to come pick me up there. Once the trailer was unhooked and put away, We decided to ride down to the lot and check with our neighbor, Gary, who had agreed to dig a trench for us, to see whether he would be able to start digging tomorrow or Monday.

Imagine our surprise when we pulled up to the lot to find Gary sitting on his tractor, operating the backhoe, and already halfway through the job! He was digging a trench about 140 feet long, 2 feet deep, and nearly 14 inches wide…more than enough to bury the lines that we would be setting.

While Gary’s backhoe was a wonderful machine for digging the dirt and breaking through tree roots, it didn’t remove the roots or smooth out the ditch, so when he was finished, I grabbed a shovel and an axe so I could smooth and level the bottom of the ditch and hack away those pesky roots that could keep us from laying the pipes. Meanwhile, Barbara was busy picking up the roots and branches that had been dug up or broken off and hauling them off to a new burn pile for future destruction.

As we were finishing the job, Bob and Mary drove by in their golf cart to see what we had done. When they left us, Bob went back and picked up the trailer load of pipes and other supplies that we bought this morning and brought the trailer down to park it on the new slab…ready for another day’s work.

All in all, it was a very successful day…we accomplished far more than we had dreamed for the day and, although worn out from the heat and exertion, were looking forward to what we might be able to do tomorrow.

“Feed your faith…starve your doubts” …marquee at Harvest Acres Baptist in Mineola

From Holiday Village at Lake Fork,

Jim & Barbara.